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Welcome back to the show everybody check Out these headlines well yesterday was a Massive day in court for the SEC versus Coin base and the judge was relentless And guess what else we got Brad Garlinghouse talking about that and We've also got Brad garlinghouse sitting Down with Fox news's Maria bartar Romo In Davos and he's going to go over a lot Of things whether it's the koi base case The ETF approvals Gary gensler's SEC the Regulatory battle in the us kyc ml Stable coin legislation fi F Financial You know what somebody just rolled a Damn intro here we [Music] [Applause] Go digital perspectives with Brad KES Come on [Applause] In welcome back to the show you guys can Follow us on YouTube yoube and Twitter For exclusive content let me get the Page up right here you caught me while I Was raising the desk I like to stand When I do my videos here the last year Or so and I absolutely love it now I've Got a uh what is it remote desk you can Raise up and down and it's very nice to Be able to stand up and not sit so much I'm really getting into that so this is Really great hope everybody's having a Great day right now it's $ 1.75 trillion Do market cap for crypto the markets off
By 6% 42,4 for Bitcoin right now 2,500 Plus for ethereum 94.9 billion plus for Tether right now and 56 cents for xrp Off by 1.2 in the 24h hour off by 6.5 on The 7 day not setting the world on fire Today but we'll keep an eye on it as We're between 55 and 57 cents ladies and Gentlemen right now I want to remind you This because I'll tell you what is on Fire it's tickets to xrp Las Vegas Ladies and gentlemen May 3rd May 4th 2024 write it down one of the most Important conversations on crypto Digital assets regulation Builders tra Trafi web 3 policy regulation we've got It all and it's going to be happening on Stage May 3rd May 4th 2024 you need to Get your tickets ladies and gentlemen Let me tell you something and if you Want if you have not done it I have had The luxury and the privilege of meeting And speaking to every one of these People you're looking at and they are Going to be guests of honor at the Future of digital asset set's benefit Dinner and we are supporting that for uh The Chamber of digital Commerce shout Out to perryan boring and everybody There this is a big opportunity if you Have not had the pleasure of meeting Either one of these gentlemen and Speaking to them personally you will Have a chance to do so at this benefit Dinner it is a charitable tax tax
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Are not a security judge FIA said uh That's what the folks at the back table Think which is where coinbase was Sitting and they're wondering why we are Here coin bases stance was validated Leaving the courtroom buzzing do you Believe crypto assets should be Regulated as Securities the answer is no That's how I feel about that look I feel Like honestly these digital assets are Not Securities but you can package them In an offering as we know to be a Security there were multiple multiple Remarks made in there that really let You understand that the judge was very Very knowledgeable the questions she was Asking SEC and coinbase for that matter Were very detailed and they were the Kind of questions that were formulated That you could easily understand from The question that judge FIA pH uh Absolutely has an incredible Understanding of this technology and how It's supposed to be looked at I tell you This is going to be exciting to see Where she ends up coming up with this Decision she did say yesterday she Wasn't going to do a decision on the Same day and that was hats off to both Parties for the arguments made right now We have Brad garlinghouse boy I tell you What Brad is a standout at Davos this Year we got interviews all over the Place with Brad yesterday Bloomberg
House right then we had CNBC now we have Him today with Fox and Maria Bart Romo And you're going to hear him talk about Everything from ETF approvals Gary Gendler's SEC the early days of the Internet stable coin legislation Financial institutions getting to use it For settlement and so much more hopes For the US market let's take a listen to This right Here welcome back take a look at crypto Prices this morning down across the Board the price of Bitcoin falling over 8% in the last week after the Securities And Exchange Commission approved spot Bitcoin ETFs for us public trading last Thursday Bitcoin ETFs pulling in nearly $900 million in just the first three Days of trading we are even higher than That today joining me right now here at The world economic Forum in Davos is the CEO of Ripple Brad garlinghouse Brad Great to see you great to see you thank Thank you so much for being here I want To get your take on the impact of this ETF approval what have you seen well I Think it's a very big deal uh in large Part because I think it's further Validation from institutions and even in This case a government entity where you Know that crypto has been on kind of the Outskirts I think and increasingly You're seeing that come into the Mainstream and so I think it's a
Validation I think it's further Indication of more institutions coming Into the crypto asset market and and Ripple enables Global financial Institutions take take us through that How so ripple at its core uh we sell Blockchain Technologies and solutions to Enterprises we focus primarily on Financial institutions we started with a Payments solution to to settle Crossborder settlement for uh banks for PSPs you know typically crosswater Payments have been slow they've been Expensive using these Technologies we Can dramatically reduce the cost and Increase the speed and efficiency and Now you're seeing Financial Services Institutions try to get their own Strategy with regard to blockchain Underway how has that changed the Dynamic for ripple well I think anytime You have a new technology it's it's nent And although crypto's kind of been Around for 10 or almost 12 years let's Say it's still new and I think you have A lot of large organizations even JP Morgan despite Jamie Diamond's comments About how he thinks about crypto they're Investing heavily in blockchain Technologies now that being said I think In order for blockchain to thrive and For the largest population to benefit From these Technologies you can't have Insular closed networks like the whole
Point it's kind of like the internet the Internet opened up networks you had AOL And compy serve and Prodigy Along Comes The internet to create interoperability Crypto does what a great Point keep Listening that and can do that across Many banks and to provide dramatic Improvements to how we think about money Movement and really any transaction and With any new technology I question Whether or not those writing the laws Around the regulation framework really Understand the technology now recently You called the secur an exchange Commission chairman Gary Gensler a quote Political liability to the United States Uh you said he's acting in the interests Of citizenry or the long-term growth of The economy that he's not acting uh in The uh on behalf of of customers and Users tell us more well look I think uh Gary gendler has prioritized hiring more Lawyers to litigate the industry and This is often described as uh you know It or kind of Regulation through Enforcement if we just took the time to Codify rules of the road most of the Industry in crypto wants to follow the Rules of the road countries around the World have leaned in even the European Union 27 countries in the European Union Come together to create a construct for How crypto should be regulated in the United States we haven't done this work
I I jokingly suggested maybe what we Should just do is type into chat gbt how Should the US that's more than the US SEC has done and it's frustrating and I Think uh even guess yesterday there's a A court hearing between coinbase in the SEC and the the judicial system Continues to slap down the SEC because They're overreaching they're Overstepping what the laws say it's the Reason why they lost the case against Ripple it's the reason why they lost the Case against Grace guilt it's the reason Why they were dragged Kicking and Screaming to have an ETF thus you know As I was quoted I think uh Gary gendler Hasn't been acting he's been acting Almost his own agenda not the people's Agenda in the United States you know I I Wish I had a clear answer to that I I Think these are technologies that are Here to stay and the ETF approval is I Think further indication of that it's Just frustrating that we're spending so Much time in the judicial process to get Clarity when we could do that as many Other countries like Japan the UK the UAE Switzerland here in Switzerland you These are not small economies they're Doing the work to provide that Clarity And in the US I think it's become a Political agenda not a policy agenda From someone who studied this as many Years as you have what would be the
Proper framework on a regulatory Environment that needs to be in place Well I think the number one thing I Think about is not about regulating the Technology it's about regulating the Outcomes and the activity just because We has new new technologies we should Still care about things like kyc know Your customer we should still care about Anti-money laundering AML those are Principles that are are I think sacr Synct I think the US SEC has been trying To expand their remit to say well this New market a $ 1.7 trillion Doll Market Of crypto assets is going to be under The REM of the SEC in the United States The law does not support that the cftc Is a much more natural regulator and you Know things people will say well what About FTX and you know ironically Gary Gendler was meeting with Sam bankman Freed repeatedly you know FTX isn't About a crypto fraud FTX is about a Fraud it happens to have been crypto and It definitely was a self-inflicted wound For the industry but one of the things I'm excited for what is ahead in 2024 is The headwinds of these self-inflicted Wounds have largely abated are you clear On who The Regulators are because it Seems like there are still questions SEC Cftc or maybe everybody well in the US There's still confusion for sure outside Of the US and the reason why Ripple has
Continued to grow very quickly outside The US 95% of our customers are non- us Financial institutions 75% of our hiring Last year was outside the United States Because of this but yet if you go back To the earliest days of the internet the US did the work and provided Clarity of How the internet would be regulated and The internet today is on a geopolitical Basis has benefited the United States More than any other country it's a great Point I want to get your take on what The CEO of circle said he says he sees a Strong chance that the US passes laws For stable coin issues this year Brad Tell us about the stable coin and the Potential looming regulation there here We go everyone's leaning in stable coin Legislation being done this year let me Tell you think of it for a moment Outside of crypto think of what it does For financial institutions and Settlement it instantly with legisl I Just very quickly I'm going to play the Rest of this but very quickly stable Coin Legislation true legislation which means No more holding things up from the OCC No more holding things up from the SEC Or any other agency legislation that Says you can use it and this is how you Do it right think of it for a moment Instantly stable coins will make Banks 247365 the world will change the dat
That legislation passes it will never be The same again so I I think the the Regulation there is appropriate I think It is the priority uh on Capital Hill I've spent a bunch of time in Washington DC the US Treasury I mean stable coins 95 plus percent of the market of stable Coins is the US dollar stable coin you Have tether you have usdc and I think The US Treasury wants to see that those Laws passed and I think they will be Pushing Congress to act and I think That's that's good that's forward Progress uh there are new dynamics of What stable coins mean to financials Kind of settlement and so uh I think you Know the CH there it was listen really Quickly he just kind of real quick there You have usdc and I think the US Treasury wants to see that those laws Passed and I think they will be and who Sits on the board at Ripple over the Years Michael SAR Susan fredman Craig Phillips Rosy Rios all treasury Officials pushing Congress to act and I Think that's that's good that's forward Progress There are new dynamics of what stable Coins mean to financial kind of Settlement and So there it is so uh I think you the CEO Jeremy air of circle is is correct that That'll probably happen the first half Of this year uh piece in the journal
This morning on how China's crypto Traders are evading the rules there um They write this the success of the Country's crypto traders in invading the Rules shows how difficult it will be for Regulators across the world including The United States to actually police This industry your reaction you know I I Think there are elements of that with Any new technology you know there's Obviously the great firewall of China is Something that has you people have Sought to circumvent evade within China For you know probably a decade or two I I think again if you think about the Activities that these Technologies Enable kyc still matters AML still Matters and ultimately today you there The off-ramps through typically Exchanges like coinbase that are very Good actors where I think you are able To enforce the these kinds of Regulations that's part of the you know The self-inflicted wound of a settlement With binance the largest Exchange in the World uh with the US government you know I think a few months ago well that Settlement you just referred to Congratulations to you and to Grace Scale what does this mean for you in Terms of new business opportunities now That that's behind well we Ripple really Thrived under the scrutiny of the secd But outside the United States My Hope Is
That now that there is at least Clarity For ripple that xrp is not a security That that opens up the US market Market A little bit the challenge of course is You still have us Regulators who are Pretty hostile right the the SEC Continues their uh litigation Enforcement through litigation and you Know even the OCC has been pretty Negative about crypto my view is this is A technology this is an asset class that Is here to stay we need to embrace it And understand that and I think Ultimately the US typically gets it Right it just just taken a little while So what's the push back for Jamie Diamond who was on the program last week Saying look look who's using crypto you Know ter ists look who's uses sex Traffickers you know my reaction to that Is uh terrorists and sex traffickers use Cash uh if you look on a percentage Basis uh I'm not trying to say that any New technology Bad actors can use any New tool Bad actors will use AI Bad Actors will use crypto bad actor I I Think there are a lot of very good Actors in crypto who are doing the right Thing Ripple only works with regulated Financial institutions there you go you Can't have Anonymous transactions using Ripple's technology right so some of Those things I think are good political Talking points they're not reality yeah
Well said Brad great to have you this Morning it is and I tell you what what Great breakdown that was on those points No doubt about it listen I don't want This to get too long so I'm not going to Continue uh much further than this but I Will tell you we have some breaking news That just came in ladies and gentlemen That just came in for xrp Las Vegas 5 4 3 2 one somebody roll that beautiful [Music] Intro Go Baby b [Music] I I'm telling you if you haven't had a Chance to meet him one onone it is uh it Is something that you will keep with you For a long time this is such a down toe Guy it would really I I I just I can't I can't say enough And you will have the chance to meet him Again at this guest of honors benefit Future of digital assets benefit dinner Ladies and gentlemen the link is right On the website all you have to do is go To the website and click that link right There get your ticket you're going to Break bread with him you're going to Hang out with him and you're going to Have an experience that you've never Even thought of how incredible it would Be let alone John Deon and Michael Arrington The Honorable Christian Carlo
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